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		<title>By: Alexander Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hydrogen fueled vehicles are the best but they are still not widely available.`--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hydrogen fueled vehicles are the best but they are still not widely available.`&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Connor Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connor Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 00:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hydrogen Fuel is very promising, i only hope that we can mass produce soon enough.,;;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hydrogen Fuel is very promising, i only hope that we can mass produce soon enough.,;;</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology is certainly the way out.  Which is why those energy efficient light bulbs and air conditioners help.  That was technology finding more efficient ways to transfer electricity into what we use every day.  Hydrogen fuel cells or any other kind of new technology will always always come with a cost.  You can have some factory spewing them out, but nobody will by them on their own unless they are cheaper than what exists now.  The only way for them to become cheaper is for them to be manufactured in mass (and for better technology to emerge, of course), and the only way that can happen is for someone to start using the technology, even if it is more expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology is certainly the way out.  Which is why those energy efficient light bulbs and air conditioners help.  That was technology finding more efficient ways to transfer electricity into what we use every day.  Hydrogen fuel cells or any other kind of new technology will always always come with a cost.  You can have some factory spewing them out, but nobody will by them on their own unless they are cheaper than what exists now.  The only way for them to become cheaper is for them to be manufactured in mass (and for better technology to emerge, of course), and the only way that can happen is for someone to start using the technology, even if it is more expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: champion</title>
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		<dc:creator>champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an intelligent although oversimplified idea.
It is the agenda to tell us what auto to buy and what light bulb to use. Maybe how hot or cold our thermostats will  be allow to set,  what doctors we can see, and how cost effective it is to treat our illnesses.

Control is the name of the game
It works for the bosses, not that great for everyone else </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an intelligent although oversimplified idea.<br />
It is the agenda to tell us what auto to buy and what light bulb to use. Maybe how hot or cold our thermostats will  be allow to set,  what doctors we can see, and how cost effective it is to treat our illnesses.</p>
<p>Control is the name of the game<br />
It works for the bosses, not that great for everyone else</p>
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		<title>By: champion</title>
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		<dc:creator>champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the Patriot act is still in effect and if there is another attack, it will be a terrible option for marshall law, 
Everything  is relative, I hate Bush as much as you do  probably more.
The problem I have with Obama, is that he has been elected out of nowhere,  noone has seen so much as his college grades or any papers he wrote.
He has no executive experience, yet some how he raised 600 million for his election, much of the money coming from foreign interests, and behind the scene manipulators.I don't believe that a million black kids with computers contribuuted 25 apiece to get him elected.
The only thing we know about his background is he has most liberal voting record in senate. Was there for 2 years, and has a group of very left wing socialist people as friends and advisors.
He has very ominously created a group of what he calls czars, which supercede the regular  cabinet level people who must be approved and vetted by congress, Czars report directly to him.  a very dangerous scenario, and a deviation from concept of seprate branches of government.
He doesn't seem like a bad person, but he is beholden to those who "brung him to the dance" and that includes a lot of people with agendas that don't bode well for America and Capitalism..not the Wall Street part, but the part that lets a me save his money and open a business, and reinvest to take care of his family
I fear that that part is slipping away into a welfare type European socialism.. see how well they are doing
Communism and socialism has never worked. It is another form of imposing the will of the ruling class on the rest of the population, but robs us of work ethic and risk taking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the Patriot act is still in effect and if there is another attack, it will be a terrible option for marshall law,<br />
Everything  is relative, I hate Bush as much as you do  probably more.<br />
The problem I have with Obama, is that he has been elected out of nowhere,  noone has seen so much as his college grades or any papers he wrote.<br />
He has no executive experience, yet some how he raised 600 million for his election, much of the money coming from foreign interests, and behind the scene manipulators.I don&#8217;t believe that a million black kids with computers contribuuted 25 apiece to get him elected.<br />
The only thing we know about his background is he has most liberal voting record in senate. Was there for 2 years, and has a group of very left wing socialist people as friends and advisors.<br />
He has very ominously created a group of what he calls czars, which supercede the regular  cabinet level people who must be approved and vetted by congress, Czars report directly to him.  a very dangerous scenario, and a deviation from concept of seprate branches of government.<br />
He doesn&#8217;t seem like a bad person, but he is beholden to those who &#8220;brung him to the dance&#8221; and that includes a lot of people with agendas that don&#8217;t bode well for America and Capitalism..not the Wall Street part, but the part that lets a me save his money and open a business, and reinvest to take care of his family<br />
I fear that that part is slipping away into a welfare type European socialism.. see how well they are doing<br />
Communism and socialism has never worked. It is another form of imposing the will of the ruling class on the rest of the population, but robs us of work ethic and risk taking</p>
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		<title>By: Joey The Vampire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey The Vampire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are both wrong. 

The earth does go through natural heating and cooling cycles. It was hotter during the middle ages, colder in the seventeen hundreds. Life was unbearably hot during the dinosaurs

Greenhouse gasses do trap heat and cause temperatures to rise

The problem is that forcing people and companies to use energy efficient air conditioners is not even close to a solution. Us sheep may pay more for a low energy light bulb, but businesses will just move offshore to some third world country where they can get away with this stuff. 

What they need to do is take the money they spend on conservation, and put it all into innovation. Have a huge factory shooting spewing frothing greenhouse gasses into the air for five years, but have that factory producing hydrogen fuel cells. Technology is the only way out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are both wrong. </p>
<p>The earth does go through natural heating and cooling cycles. It was hotter during the middle ages, colder in the seventeen hundreds. Life was unbearably hot during the dinosaurs</p>
<p>Greenhouse gasses do trap heat and cause temperatures to rise</p>
<p>The problem is that forcing people and companies to use energy efficient air conditioners is not even close to a solution. Us sheep may pay more for a low energy light bulb, but businesses will just move offshore to some third world country where they can get away with this stuff. </p>
<p>What they need to do is take the money they spend on conservation, and put it all into innovation. Have a huge factory shooting spewing frothing greenhouse gasses into the air for five years, but have that factory producing hydrogen fuel cells. Technology is the only way out</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just throwing this out there...I'm 24    : )

Also, I was hoping for a bit more of a heated argument.  Clearly we disagree.  That's fine.  we've been doing that on just about every charliechampion post I've commented on.  We are both aware of how much we disagree on several issues and respectfully argue our points, and I enjoy that a lot.  I would like to think that we are past the point of, "you're young, and you'll understand when you're older."  If your latest response was based on the fact that I'm ok with big government in certain situations, then bring on the argument!  I want your rebuttal!  

If your response was based on your disapproval of my position on global warming, then once again, bring on the discussion!  I would love to hear your side.

And if it was based on a general idea of my liberal views and my support for the current government, then there is certainly some validity, and I would like to argue that too!  Because my support for the current administration is hardly unwavering, and I certainly disagree with many things that are going on, including almost $1 trillion in debt that we incurred with one pen stroke.  
And I would also be willing to argue that I was much less free for the past 8 years than I have been in the past few months, and will be for the next 4 or more years.  If nothing else, the Patriot Act was pretty offensive, among other Bush/conservative initiatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just throwing this out there&#8230;I&#8217;m 24    : )</p>
<p>Also, I was hoping for a bit more of a heated argument.  Clearly we disagree.  That&#8217;s fine.  we&#8217;ve been doing that on just about every charliechampion post I&#8217;ve commented on.  We are both aware of how much we disagree on several issues and respectfully argue our points, and I enjoy that a lot.  I would like to think that we are past the point of, &#8220;you&#8217;re young, and you&#8217;ll understand when you&#8217;re older.&#8221;  If your latest response was based on the fact that I&#8217;m ok with big government in certain situations, then bring on the argument!  I want your rebuttal!  </p>
<p>If your response was based on your disapproval of my position on global warming, then once again, bring on the discussion!  I would love to hear your side.</p>
<p>And if it was based on a general idea of my liberal views and my support for the current government, then there is certainly some validity, and I would like to argue that too!  Because my support for the current administration is hardly unwavering, and I certainly disagree with many things that are going on, including almost $1 trillion in debt that we incurred with one pen stroke.<br />
And I would also be willing to argue that I was much less free for the past 8 years than I have been in the past few months, and will be for the next 4 or more years.  If nothing else, the Patriot Act was pretty offensive, among other Bush/conservative initiatives.</p>
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		<title>By: champion</title>
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		<dc:creator>champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 02:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there will be a day when (sadly) you will look up and say, dad was right, (I hope I'm wrong) and I am less free than I was when I was 23, I would much prefer that we were still free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there will be a day when (sadly) you will look up and say, dad was right, (I hope I&#8217;m wrong) and I am less free than I was when I was 23, I would much prefer that we were still free.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cooling trend is, no offense, kind of a weak response by those who argue that global warming isn't occurring.  Sure, the planet goes through these trends every couple of hundred years where the weather shifts slightly, but the fact that greenhouse gases have increased exponentially during this same time period says something.  It has also been proven scientifically that greenhouse gases trap heat in the atmosphere.  Global temperatures have also risen on average by a few degrees and continue to rise...it all basically coincides.

I've never heard a strong argument that refuted global warming, and if I did, I would be more than willing to consider the idea to be false.  The people/scientists that argue against have their own agenda as well.  Call it the conservative agenda, free market agenda, laissez faire agenda, or whatever you like.  The agenda of big businesses that don't want to spend the money to clean up all of the pollution they are creating, because it will cost them.  If global warming is a socialist agenda because people are unwilling to do what's right for the world and mankind on their own, then I say let the government step in.  Keep the government out when they invade my private life, but let them protect me from people trying to harm me, whether they are doing it directly, or slowly over time.
I wouldn't even say that the other side doesn't get press.  I'm completely aware that scientists argue against it, but I would hardly say that the sides are even.  There are scientists that for years have argued that smoking isn't bad for you, that completely deregulated markets are what's best for economy, and that evolution is completely wrong because it conflicts with what the Bible says.  There will always be two sides to any argument, even if the facts are as clear as daylight.  I think you should take a look at this one again.  I must adamantly disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cooling trend is, no offense, kind of a weak response by those who argue that global warming isn&#8217;t occurring.  Sure, the planet goes through these trends every couple of hundred years where the weather shifts slightly, but the fact that greenhouse gases have increased exponentially during this same time period says something.  It has also been proven scientifically that greenhouse gases trap heat in the atmosphere.  Global temperatures have also risen on average by a few degrees and continue to rise&#8230;it all basically coincides.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard a strong argument that refuted global warming, and if I did, I would be more than willing to consider the idea to be false.  The people/scientists that argue against have their own agenda as well.  Call it the conservative agenda, free market agenda, laissez faire agenda, or whatever you like.  The agenda of big businesses that don&#8217;t want to spend the money to clean up all of the pollution they are creating, because it will cost them.  If global warming is a socialist agenda because people are unwilling to do what&#8217;s right for the world and mankind on their own, then I say let the government step in.  Keep the government out when they invade my private life, but let them protect me from people trying to harm me, whether they are doing it directly, or slowly over time.<br />
I wouldn&#8217;t even say that the other side doesn&#8217;t get press.  I&#8217;m completely aware that scientists argue against it, but I would hardly say that the sides are even.  There are scientists that for years have argued that smoking isn&#8217;t bad for you, that completely deregulated markets are what&#8217;s best for economy, and that evolution is completely wrong because it conflicts with what the Bible says.  There will always be two sides to any argument, even if the facts are as clear as daylight.  I think you should take a look at this one again.  I must adamantly disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: champion</title>
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		<dc:creator>champion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are as many scientists that say the climate is cooling as warming, the main street press does not publish that fact because global warming is a socialist agenda to control our lives
it is an excuse to change our way of living  it is more of a freedom issue, but noone will publicize that fact
sorry for bucking popular notions, but if you do some checking, you will see that at least there are 2 sides to this question, and in fact i have read that we are currently in a 25-30 year cooling trend that has been going on for 4-5 years already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are as many scientists that say the climate is cooling as warming, the main street press does not publish that fact because global warming is a socialist agenda to control our lives<br />
it is an excuse to change our way of living  it is more of a freedom issue, but noone will publicize that fact<br />
sorry for bucking popular notions, but if you do some checking, you will see that at least there are 2 sides to this question, and in fact i have read that we are currently in a 25-30 year cooling trend that has been going on for 4-5 years already.</p>
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